russian energy, through the cast pecaspea sea. >> because the domestic supplies from these critical producers are dhoining, that really -- declining that really the pipeline supplies at a will be available for europe will be -- that will be available will be largely from russian gas. >> european leaders understand that, that's why they are calling for dialogue with, not sanctions against, russia. ali velshi, al jazeera. >> warren hogue, and from providence, rhode island, thomas nichols, professor of national security affairs. gentlemen, welcome. >> thank you.